Lionel Chalmers

PG, Xavier · 2004 NBA Draft, 2nd round, pick #33 (LAC)

Drafted#33LAC · 2004
Redraft rank#40of 59 picks
Typical redraft rank for pick #33~#352000–2021 median
VerdictBelow his slot · -5spots vs. typical

Why he went too high Patterns

Signals in our data that pointed to him being overvalued: pre-draft rankings, availability. Details below.

  • Pre-draft rankings

    ESPN's pre-draft board ranked him #57 (#14 at his position); he went #33, 24 spots earlier. Teams were higher on him than the media board was.

    Since 2000, picks in this group beat their draft slot 33.8% of the time (272 players, 2000–2021 classes) vs. 50% for a typical pick.

  • Availability

    Played 36 games over 1 NBA season (~44% of a full 82-game schedule each year).

  • Age

    23.6 years old on draft night (born 1980-11-10).

    Since 2000, picks in this group beat their draft slot 48.6% of the time (138 players, 2000–2021 classes) vs. 50% for a typical pick.

  • Path to the draft

    Played college basketball at Xavier.

    Since 2000, picks in this group beat their draft slot 53.2% of the time (1,015 players, 2000–2021 classes) vs. 50% for a typical pick.

  • Position

    PG (ESPN draft listing).

    Since 2000, picks in this group beat their draft slot 48.9% of the time (499 players, 2000–2021 classes) vs. 50% for a typical pick.

Every line comes from data: Basketball-Reference career data; ESPN's draft profile; Wikidata birth dates. No scouting reports or quotes. Green = pointed toward a bust for him.

Career numbers

Seasons1
Games36
Minutes / game12.0
Points / game3.1
Rebounds / game0.9
Assists / game1.4
Win Shares (career)-0.2
VORP-0.4
Box Plus/Minus-5.3

The 2004 class: draft pick vs. redraft rank Full redraft

11151530304545Draft pick →Redraft rank (best at top)Dwight Howard: pick 1 → redraft 1Emeka Okafor: pick 2 → redraft 13Ben Gordon: pick 3 → redraft 14Shaun Livingston: pick 4 → redraft 20Devin Harris: pick 5 → redraft 8Josh Childress: pick 6 → redraft 17Luol Deng: pick 7 → redraft 3Rafael Araújo: pick 8 → redraft 42Andre Iguodala: pick 9 → redraft 2Luke Jackson: pick 10 → redraft 34Andris Biedriņš: pick 11 → redraft 19Robert Swift: pick 12 → redraft 30Sebastian Telfair: pick 13 → redraft 25Kris Humphries: pick 14 → redraft 22Al Jefferson: pick 15 → redraft 5Kirk Snyder: pick 16 → redraft 24Josh Smith: pick 17 → redraft 4J.R. Smith: pick 18 → redraft 9Dorell Wright: pick 19 → redraft 15Jameer Nelson: pick 20 → redraft 10Pavel Podkolzin: pick 21 → redraft 38Viktor Khryapa: pick 22 → redraft 28Sergei Monia: pick 23 → redraft 41Delonte West: pick 24 → redraft 16Tony Allen: pick 25 → redraft 12Kevin Martin: pick 26 → redraft 7Sasha Vujačić: pick 27 → redraft 23Beno Udrih: pick 28 → redraft 18David Harrison: pick 29 → redraft 27Anderson Varejão: pick 30 → redraft 11Jackson Vroman: pick 31 → redraft 44Peter John Ramos: pick 32 → redraft 46Donta Smith: pick 34 → redraft 33Andre Emmett: pick 35 → redraft 36Antonio Burks: pick 36 → redraft 35Royal Ivey: pick 37 → redraft 26Chris Duhon: pick 38 → redraft 21Albert Miralles: pick 39 → redraft 47Justin Reed: pick 40 → redraft 32David Young: pick 41 → redraft 48Viktor Sanikidze: pick 42 → redraft 49Trevor Ariza: pick 43 → redraft 6Tim Pickett: pick 44 → redraft 50Bernard Robinson: pick 45 → redraft 29Ha Seung-Jin: pick 46 → redraft 39Pape Sow: pick 47 → redraft 31Ricky Minard: pick 48 → redraft 51Sergei Lishouk: pick 49 → redraft 52Vassilis Spanoulis: pick 50 → redraft 37Christian Drejer: pick 51 → redraft 53Romain Sato: pick 52 → redraft 54Matt Freije: pick 53 → redraft 43Rickey Paulding: pick 54 → redraft 55Luis Flores: pick 55 → redraft 45Marcus Douthit: pick 56 → redraft 56Sergei Karaulov: pick 57 → redraft 57Blake Stepp: pick 58 → redraft 58Rashad Wright: pick 59 → redraft 59

Each dot is a 2004 pick. Dashed line = typical redraft rank for each slot (2000–2021 classes). Above the line = beat his slot.

How players like him did

Pre-draft rankings
Taken 10+ picks before ESPN's rank
33.8%
n=272
Age
23 or older
48.6%
n=138
Path to the draft
US college
53.2%
n=1,015
Position
Guard
48.9%
n=499

Share of 2000–2021 picks with the same trait who beat their draft slot. Line = 50%.

Measurables & pre-draft

Height / weight6' 0", 180 lbs
Age on draft night23.6
Born1980-11-10
ESPN pre-draft rank#57 overall (#14 PG)

Picked around him 2004 redraft

30Anderson Varejãoredraft #11
31Jackson Vromanredraft #44
32Peter John Ramosredraft #46
34Donta Smithredraft #33
35Andre Emmettredraft #36
36Antonio Burksredraft #35

How verdicts and reasons are computed: methodology. Steal / bust = 15+ spots better / worse than the typical redraft rank for the slot.